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Deitra Vess
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Posted - 2016.09.15 20:55:52 -
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Watch it be an attack on something completely different, using the coronation as a diversion.... Then again maybe that's what he wants you to think. Or not... |
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Posted - 2016.09.15 21:37:18 -
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Think we know who the spy in the fleet is... |
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Posted - 2016.09.15 21:42:20 -
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I think he's assuming you'll show up in person to get them. |
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Posted - 2016.09.16 01:01:56 -
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Vollhov Jr wrote:Kolodi Ramal wrote:Please don't do this, Matar Ronin. Don't slaughter Matari crews for a fool's errand. How did you in the past retake your freedom How do you exist as a state Now I begin to understand his brother. That's why he did not accept part in the war against you. By taking advantage of opportunity when the time was right to achieve a goal. In this particular thing the opportunity and the time are aligned, is the goal? Don't think we TRULY know the goal so hard to say aside from speculation. |
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Posted - 2016.09.16 13:25:00 -
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Pretty sure your fight doesn't have a chance either. |
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Posted - 2016.09.23 01:56:57 -
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I kinda wish the khanid won. Then again that's only due to the impact it would have had on the empire... |
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Posted - 2016.09.23 22:41:46 -
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Alistair Schneider wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:I kinda wish the khanid won. Then again that's only due to the impact it would have had on the empire... I don't think you want the Empire to have fully reactivated and re-mobilized its navy. If Khanid had taken the throne by some fit of corrupt divine intervention, not only would millions of unwilling naval vessels in the Kingdom be forced to rise against its brothers and sisters (because, to be honest, if Khanid had taken the throne, it's without reason of a doubt that I believe a rebellion of notable significance would occur). What would happen then? Would you celebrate and laud as your economic partner, the Federation, has a massive dip in its economical success due to the enormous turmoil of this supposed civil war? Even worse, if Khanid had successfully retained the throne, do you think he would really be the "best case?" Khanid II, who is in support of drastic action against Minmatar terrorism? It's... rather short sighted of you to suggest something like this, really! And a touch horrid, too.
I'd rather they not do that, ya your right on that regard. I don't really understand how it would be some "corrupt divine intervention" honestly, your people chose a rather barbaric method of showing your gods favor, how is it corrupt if outside factors (the possible emperor/empress selecting superior pilots) are exactly what proves it? Whether I would celebrate or whatever the civil war of those who have the bravado to say they are the chosen people to lead the cluster into some light, no I wouldnt celebrate their deaths per say but I'll certainly be laughing at your peoples lack of faith. I don't honestly understand how a civil war between factions in one of our shared enemy would drastically effect the federation. I will say I'm not an economist, I'm a combat pilot and a rather p**s poor fleet commander. I strongly doubt the Khanid navy could beat the Amarr navy proper.
Your religion has committed worse atrocities than a simple civil war could possibly achieve, watching a crisis of faith is more horrid than actively killing your peers? Short sighted maybe... |
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Posted - 2016.09.23 23:58:50 -
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Inspections, and an agreed upon limit on module types between the parties I'd imagine. I believe they could ban ships from rounds but don't quote me on that. |
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Posted - 2016.09.24 03:24:32 -
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Khumaaks? How many ya got? I keep losing mine in fireballs that I ran out a long time ago... |
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Posted - 2016.09.24 06:59:59 -
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Well that's a new one, don't get me wrong I can't wait to try it. Thanks! |
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Posted - 2016.09.30 18:10:53 -
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Fcing, being a frigate combat pilot, and being a battleship or capital ship combat pilot aren't under the same umbrella. Just because I FC frigates doesn't mean I know a thing about fcing archons or flying them in combat for that matter. Her being specialized into one combat doctrine doesn't make her any better or worse than someone who's focused on a different combat doctrine. Don't get me wrong I think it's rather weak she can't accept a duel when she is flat out called on it, to someone who doesn't focus on capsuleer combat no less. I won't say who my isk would be on in that fight, though look far back in my combat records and there's a clue. |
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Posted - 2016.09.30 19:29:30 -
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I think he doesn't realize the hassle involved in going to do a duel as a militia pilot in a totally different warzone, not excusing it but it's an understandable reason... |
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Posted - 2016.09.30 19:40:22 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:I think he doesn't realize the hassle involved in going to do a duel as a militia pilot in a totally different warzone, not excusing it but it's an understandable reason... I don't care about hassle, ma'am. I have already explained plain and clear, so instead of making ridiculous claims about myself that contradict my words and showing yourself as another troll, please read my previous replies. Several times if necessary. Before posting again. Thanks in advance. Just offering it as one of those "you'd have to be in those circles to understand why I wouldn't waste my time flying across the cluster to do a duel in hostile space" instead of your more elaborate answer. Don't mind me, just trying to stop needless bickering. You know he won't accept your answer just as much as you won't see this as me trying to do the opposite of trolling, trying to clarify it in another way.
Think of it as me giving him an alternate, more relatable answer to why your not jumping in the pod to murder his crew. |
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Posted - 2016.09.30 21:19:26 -
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Just declare a ship type, first tier frigates, or interceptors or assault frigates or whatever. There you'll have no limits aside from the obvious "I can't fly things that go 400+m/s." |
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Posted - 2016.09.30 21:42:40 -
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I'm just going to speak up as someone who has dueled her, she's not as incompetent as you think. Your other points are subjective but valid. |
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Posted - 2016.10.05 18:49:26 -
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Hmm.... I see they haven't kissed and made up yet. Any possibility of changing the title of the thread to something more appropriate? "Achuran Honor vs Matari Vengeance: The duel that never was" or something like that? It being named after a fleet from a week ago is unfitting at this point. |
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Posted - 2016.10.05 21:30:42 -
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This thread has a topic at this point? It's about a fleet last week... |
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Posted - 2016.10.06 21:05:40 -
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Honestly it does seem doubtful Kim, not out of cowardice per say but as Tyrel and I believe Pieter said before him, it's not on his terms thus more of a gamble (not everyone is a gambler after all). Also soo true Utari, so true.
Red btw. |
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Posted - 2016.10.06 21:26:25 -
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Is that some crimson red? Or more orange? |
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Posted - 2016.10.06 21:39:54 -
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That makes sense.
Scorched metal. |
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Posted - 2016.10.06 21:58:37 -
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Matari mud pies... |
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Posted - 2016.10.06 23:13:58 -
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It's a type of chocolate pie with Cocoa powder and sometimes a gummy worm.
Caveat emptor. |
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Posted - 2016.10.06 23:30:14 -
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Opportunity costs. |
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Posted - 2016.10.07 00:11:45 -
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Playing with fire commenting on Heth, Ronin... you'll only get what constitutes my next one from her...
Irritable Bowel Syndrome
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Posted - 2016.10.07 00:21:32 -
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This one work better for ya?
Verbal diarrhea
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Posted - 2016.10.07 01:59:21 -
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You talking about Morion? Ya........ |
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Posted - 2016.10.07 03:09:17 -
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^ this |
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Posted - 2016.10.07 22:58:04 -
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Diana Kim wrote: Stupid is to accept a duel of honor from a honorless person.
When I give a word, my honor demands I follow it to the end. But they aren't restricted by such rules. They can give a word on one hand and violate it when they come on grid. Thus any rule I agree on puts me in vulnerable position and gives dishonorable people a significant advantage over me.
I can't let this happen. Thus to fight with such space scum like him I demand only one rule: NO RULES.
Who do you mean they? If your referring to my kin I'll have you know I have never not honored a duel and it's agreed upon terms to its fullest, nor have I incorporated links or boosters (which are pretty much a standard for me normally) or even implants during them aside from possibly learning implants. Do not paint us all with the same brush for some of us are rather proud of our dedication to honoring duels. |
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Posted - 2016.10.08 02:10:33 -
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I can't blame you for that sentiment Ronin, but I can tell you I got a fair one from her, as much as I don't agree with much of what she says atleast with me I got a fair duel (her confirmed links support were not present. Yes I know who they are. Word gets around and I DO know and have worked with Cal mil on non pendulum war things to ask for that info. Joys of Merc work.) With her, if she fears an unfair duel I can't blame her when it comes to not trusting the honor of the other side. I don't always either, that's why I get someone to wait and finish the job incase it isn't a fair duel. For all she knows I could be waiting to clean up. I wouldn't obviously, I don't take duels lightly. But I doubt she'd believe my word on face value. |
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Posted - 2016.10.08 14:20:49 -
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I don't see how working with Cal mil in anti pirate activities makes me an enemy of the state. Nor do I understand how have I really become hostile towards the state (and to an extent you). I've had plenty of disagreements with you but the only caldari on my record were killed in Bosborgor, during one engagement while they attacked my home. Wouldn't say I'm hostile, indifferent maybe. |
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Posted - 2016.10.09 14:53:35 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Your corporation belongs to Minmatar Militia. TLF is enemy of the Amarr Empire. Caldari State is ally with Amarr Empire. Their enemies are OUR enemies.
You belong to that corporation, and thus you are enemy of the State. That's perfectly fine you feel us to be a threat, your militia's forces will still simply be seen as any random neutral to us. When Caldari forces actually gain the ability to take control of our home system and hold it under their own name we'll reconside that stance. |
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Posted - 2016.10.14 04:44:53 -
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Obviously not because honor = laziness/not wanting to give up home system advantage. |
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Posted - 2016.10.15 14:30:09 -
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I don't believe I said who I was directing laziness or the other thing to. For all you know I was referring to Ronin in both regards. As far as your repeating an answer to points not even raised, how do you keep an idiot in suspense? |
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Posted - 2016.10.15 14:46:54 -
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No worries, it happens to everyone. |
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Posted - 2016.10.17 17:11:29 -
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Tin does have a rather low melting point. With all the hot air being blown in this thread he may be on to something.... |
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Posted - 2016.10.17 17:28:43 -
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Before she... "Migrated" guess would be the right term, she was in Pyre, who DK spoke out against a few times, not to mention shot at while they were involved with Cal mil. That was before her time and I'm not going into specifics (honestly I don't care to and other "people" will feel compelled to defend it). She has been on that side. Unless I'm missing something. |
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Posted - 2016.10.17 19:41:18 -
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Aria Jenneth wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:Before she... "Migrated" guess would be the right term, she was in Pyre, who DK spoke out against a few times, not to mention shot at while they were involved with Cal mil. That was before her time and I'm not going into specifics (honestly I don't care to and other "people" will feel compelled to defend it). She has been on that side. Unless I'm missing something. Thank you for the kinda-sorta defense, Ms. Vess. It's true I was with PY-RE, and I have worked with a lot of people who don't get along with her at all: Ali, Makoto Priano, others. I don't think I've ever been on bad terms with her myself, though. Ms. Kim and I haven't come to harsh words between ourselves more than once, I don't think, and that time was a misunderstanding, even though we disagree about maybe almost everything. I try to be just a little careful, because I know she's a badly wounded person. (She and Mr. Ronin might have that in common, a little.) I do get tired of watching people speak cruelly to her, as though she were just being stupid instead of someone deeply hurt. I've learned not to intervene for that reason only, though. It doesn't seem to help. Or maybe I just don't have the energy it would take. I'm not asking if we can maybe stop this so much to protect her as because this thread's burned away everything interesting it was and everything interesting it turned into and it's now just ... kind of smoldering along and smelling awful. Mr. Ronin and Ms. Kim have a personal stake, maybe, but ... it's not like their snarling at each other over the border is probably going to be resolved right here, whatever happens. Maybe if the air clears a little someone might have something interesting to say. (Did our conversation over Mr. Ephesianos's comments just plain disappear, Ms. Vess? I can't seem to find it.)
My hope is he sees what I would hope is a friendly face trying to defuse the situation before it becomes a normal "DK vs the cluster" (really I'm referring to Ronin on this one but I think everyone would understand what I'm talking about) situation. Maybe Kim wouldn't be so trigger happy on the IGS if she had such a luxury. Consider it an experiment or whatever, I prefer to call it standing up for distant kin.
I don't know much on where Kim's disconnects with civil conversation have arisen from, though I could see that being a possibility hearing it said. Still doesn't stop her words aimed our way for no specific reason but then again my enemies aren't faceless to me. To her? I have my opinions on that but won't cause the backlash from saying them.
I would say I hope this whole thing dies here but it won't. It will simply spill into other threads like my second duel challenge and other ones that have faded away. Let's hope that changes.
As far as that last thread, I think it got prematurely got deleted, which is a shame since it was starting to become somewhat civil. Oh well, any discussions I'm more than happy to have in any medium. |
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Posted - 2016.10.17 19:58:04 -
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Luna Hanaya wrote:Deitra Vess wrote: My hope is he sees what I would hope is a friendly face trying to defuse the situation before it becomes a normal "DK vs the cluster" (really I'm referring to Ronin on this one but I think everyone would understand what I'm talking about) situation. Maybe Kim wouldn't be so trigger happy on the IGS if she had such a luxury. Consider it an experiment or whatever, I prefer to call it standing up for distant kin.
It doesn't look like "DK vs cluster". It looks like Ronin vs DK. No, not even like this. It looks more like Ronin vs sanity. But I understand your desire to represent it as DK vs cluster, as I know you want to make her look worse than she is just because she bested you. Let it go, pray, and let the God forgive you. I was referring to past times where litterally 4+ people have come to attack her views, to the "ignore Diana Kim" threads, ect. I'm talking about not seeing Ronin devolve into such things via unknowingly making those actions feasible to the rest of us. |
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Posted - 2016.10.17 20:32:44 -
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I want a pink wolf! That or rifter, ya I'd totally rock that.... |
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Posted - 2016.10.19 06:41:37 -
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Uh..... You feel that the numerous times that people (not Ronin mind you) went out of their way to show you your wrong, discussions with Piano, Morwen, myself and even Pieter who mind you is on your side, much like me with Ronin, were civil on either side? You aren't innocent on any of them, nor are they to a degree. Don't call the kettle black. Personally, I agree with you that the person calling for the duel should have the burden of meeting it's prerequisites (showing up). What we have here is some one, unlike you or me, who isn't a frigate pilot. Someone who doesn't get, as much as your denying it as a reason, have added burdens added into the mix on fielding a ship for a duel on his terms. If I'm wrong please record your camera feeds of you flying battle fit Raven through Gallante and Matari lowsec space solo and simply do the duel to shut both of you up. You won't. I understand why but laugh at your defensive reasoning to other reasons. Its not some honor thing, it's a logistic nightmare. So stop pretending it's not to people who know it is. For Ronin, there's some misunderstanding of why he must first be able to fly frigates before stepping into "real ships." I don't have to explain to you the fact that if you suck at flying those you more than likely suck at flying them. You know this, I know this, anyone with a combat record knows the importance of learning the basics before jumping into the deep end. I know this sounds harsh, but I strongly believe he should fit a rifter, fly out to you and lose a crew since I don't think he grasps that this isn't a matter of simply killing pirates. This is a real fight. They have consequences that can stifle anyone's false bravado real quick. I hope this is seen as a pleasant surprise, a stupid tribal pretending to be civil.
Neither of you are being civil. Cut this sh*t out and act like the privateer caldari officer you are. Ronin, were all better than this, prove it like I know you can. |
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Posted - 2016.10.19 13:46:54 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:Uh..... You feel that the numerous times that people (not Ronin mind you) went out of their way to show you your wrong, discussions with Piano, Morwen, myself and even Pieter who mind you is on your side, much like me with Ronin, were civil on either side? You aren't innocent on any of them, nor are they to a degree. Innocent? No. I was quite offensive, because I have zero tolerance to uncivil and hostile behavior. But I don't show hostility to those, who behave like civilized people. Your bring up a list?... Fine, I'll walk through it quickly. Priano? - she was anything but civil. She has been openly lying in IGS about me, she was lying when I only tried to invite her to talk about possibility of her alliance to join us. Yes, the alliance eventually joined our organization, but her behavior still was unacceptable. I gave her chance to show she can be honorable and behave like a civilized person when her lies were countered, but she again chose the wrong path. Morwen? - for these peoples GalNet made up a name 'Troll'. You can look up the definition. And I don't think I could remember time when she was actually behaving like a civilized person in a conversation with me. I don't know, maybe she did some time, but I simply don't remember it. Pieter? - well, there was an incident with him insulting fallen Caldari Soldier. For Caldari and wayists such behavior again can be quite disturbing and appaling. Yes, I blown up too much at this, but you have to understand that we don't consider it civil as well. And finally yourself. After the duel with you I thought that our conflict was over. But I think you can make a quick search through the forum and find out that you were shamelessly spreading lies about me. That was neither civil behavior, nor behavior that I would tolerate even slightly. I am a soldier, Ms. Vess, and whole my life I was taught only how to kill and how to fight. I don't start wars or looking for conflicts. But when someone chooses a conflict with me, I do what I have been taught to. I fight. To the end, whichever it will be. Well, would you consider me a troll? I'll admit I've had my fair share(saying fair share is probably pushing it but anyways) of stupid comments and yet none of those people attack me to the degree they've attacked you. I'm a liar and a troll supposedly but when I'm called out on something (almost always something that was an honest mistake, I don't attack people here I have guns and missiles for that) it's never "well, your lying" it's "sorry, I was mistaken" or something similar. I can't recall having any really serious with Pieter, someone who we've litterally shot at each other once upon a time. I've even occasionally found common ground with with your allies. You have a hatred for a very large portion of the Gallante, I have a hatred for a large portion of the Amarr, yet I can come to terms with the reality that gritting my teeth and baring it makes P.O.W. exchanges and other, non violent things much easier. Not every problem can be solved with violence easily.
I won't deny you are a soldier, something I wouldn't necessarily boast for myself to the same degree. Is adaptability only a thing in the Matari and Amarr Armed forces? Why do I highly doubt that. |
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Posted - 2016.10.20 05:18:17 -
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Uh...... Ya, have him duel a guy who will torture and kill his crew...... Good fighter or not that's not exactly the best of candidates for getting some trigger time as a Matari. |
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Posted - 2016.10.20 13:02:56 -
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You know I have to admit, in recent times especially you have apologized for some things. I say "in recent times especially" since those are the ones that stand out in my head strongly. Call it a criticism but you do seem to take liberty in calling what clearly is an opinion to everyone else as some bold faced lie. For instance, that last sentence is my opinion, if people agree with it it's their opinion as well. Is my opinion relevant to anything in the grand scale of things? Is yours or anyone elses? Nope, so why waste your time defending it? You do enough to prove my opinion wrong in your actions, not with addressing it head on since addressing it head on people will see it to be a fact. More people assume guilt in the person who needs to defend themselves in 100 words as opposed to laughing it off. |
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Posted - 2016.10.20 13:56:44 -
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Well that's reassuring, and ya that's true that it more than likely would be near a station. I would think in a duel situation, crew deaths would be less, it's not like you would have non essential crew aboard and it's alot more obvious when your ship is going to be destroyed than in a regular combat situation. |
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Posted - 2016.10.20 14:14:27 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:You know I have to admit, in recent times especially you have apologized for some things. I say "in recent times especially" since those are the ones that stand out in my head strongly. Call it a criticism but you do seem to take liberty in calling what clearly is an opinion to everyone else as some bold faced lie. For instance, that last sentence is my opinion, if people agree with it it's their opinion as well. Is my opinion relevant to anything in the grand scale of things? Is yours or anyone elses? Nope, so why waste your time defending it? You do enough to prove my opinion wrong in your actions, not with addressing it head on since addressing it head on people will see it to be a fact. More people assume guilt in the person who needs to defend themselves in 100 words as opposed to laughing it off. Opinions, guilts, actions. A lot of things that mean little. I am just a soldier of the State, and if there will be some my guilt, it will be investigated by our personnel, not some trolls in IGS. And if there will be something I will need to defend myself, I will be defending myself in front of lawful authorities, but not random something on GalNet. What I do care about and what I do defend and will stand for, it is Honor of Caldari Uniform and Names of Caldari Soldiers fallen defending our State from Sansha and Gallente invaders. It is not me, who is important, but They. Names of Heroes, who passed doing their duty, or millions of simple Protectorate soldiers who met their end even defending some Maker-forsaken military outpost in some backwater system. Or standing against Sansha Headquarter invading fleets with small wing. We can't remember and list names of everyone who dedicated their lives to the State, who gave their lives for Caldari, even if protecting just a couple of colonists from Gallente death squad. But we have this uniform and these colors. Thise simple cloth embodies lives of every brave man and woman, who fought in this war. The State Protectorate was the first of CONCORD-allowed militas to actually win the war and held all the systems secure from gallente presence for several months. We were the first, and we hold the dominance for the longest time. We have something to be proud for. And we have something to be grateful to all perished in this war for, because we wouldn't be able to achieve it without their help and without their sacrifices. We, Caldari, value Honor greater than our lives. Because it means more than just life, just a body. Honor lives even after your death, and now while I defend our collective Honor I know that after I will pass and won't be with you anymore, some other Protectorate soldier will make a stand for our uniform, maybe even without knowing my name, just like I wouldn't know his. We walk into fight knowing this, and we walk into death knowing this. We rise our banners, knowing that others will take it from our cold hands. We fight and we die for Honor, just like we fight and die for the State. Becasue who are we without it?... Just shadows and dust. You won't hear me say anything bad about that, it's a respectable position. Words aren't missiles. Nobody ever became a serial killer by word alone. Is it really honoring your dead by needlessly taking pointless fights with morons who will just have it go in one ear and out the other? My father once told me "Words don't change minds, bullets do." Action speaks louder than words, if your actions only surmount to words you've done nothing of note. |
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Posted - 2016.10.20 23:21:14 -
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Ayallah wrote:Luna Hanaya wrote:I always thought Pandemic Legion to be the Alliance with big letter 'A'. But now as I see what sort of people they started to allow into their ranks, I can think about them only as alliance with small letter 'a'.
Reputation crashed, but what to expect, for everything there's God Will. Long live the Tuskers. How will the legion survive without the approval of Diana's link pilot. Haven't you been with them for a while now? |
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Posted - 2016.10.23 22:50:13 -
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Normally I'd say (not specifically when dealing with anyone in particular Kim, I don't feel like playing the semantics game), "don't make the crew suffer for the other idiots stupidity" or something to that effect. This situation however, go for it. |
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Posted - 2016.11.05 20:44:16 -
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At this point it's merely a battle of who's more thick headed. Someone's going to get themselves killed and hopefully this whole thing wil be over with. Both of you have your share of excuses and your valid reasons, can ya just kill each other already so we can be past this? |
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Posted - 2016.11.06 16:35:10 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:At this point it's merely a battle of who's more thick headed. Someone's going to get themselves killed and hopefully this whole thing wil be over with. Both of you have your share of excuses and your valid reasons, can ya just kill each other already so we can be past this? I would with pleasure if he'd dared to appear. I think it was clear several pages ago he won't, and you'd better read first before writing next time, okay? I wouldn't say reiterating what has been said by others and myself over the last few pages as confusing what was said. I'm ignoring both of your reasonings for not and simply saying, "please, someone end this." |
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You know you'd achieve alot more by not stooping to her level right? Already many people don't bother replying to her statements* not get yourself painted under the same brush.
* Based on the 3-4 threads dedicated to giving her the silent treatment or other similar things over the last 2 years. |
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Posted - 2016.11.06 18:56:10 -
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I just say it because your entering territory that Elmund, Claudia, Tyrel, Annabelle, Morwen, myself and countless other people have done in the past. It's not a worthwhile fight which is why we hardly do so as much as the past. Fire is power and water is calm. Why fight fire with fire when the bucket of water next to you will work more efficiently? |
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Posted - 2016.11.06 19:08:54 -
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Thanks! No clue where I heard that but it stuck out to me for some reason. |
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Posted - 2016.11.08 20:24:28 -
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Claudia didn't say you only stay in hs Kim, unless you never undock(your still staging out of the same place, are you not?). Obviously you do. |
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Posted - 2016.11.08 22:16:37 -
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I'm not seeing where there was a lie, you don't seem to wish to go to him, he doesn't seem to be jumping to get in a pod and fight you in unfamiliar territory. As for the hs base thing, I was mistaken. Consider it me going off of old info. |
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Posted - 2016.11.10 14:54:43 -
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I wouldn't say that they are specifically numb to killing, more so just wearing the blinders of easy money. I would fully agree with you if acknowledging the baseline crew aboard these ships was more commonly brought up. Where we stand now it's not that common. |
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Posted - 2016.11.10 16:41:38 -
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Kolodi Ramal wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:if acknowledging the baseline crew aboard these ships was more commonly brought up. Where we stand now it's not that common. This, I want to help change. Actually, do you have any ideas about how to do that? Ideas from anybody reading this are welcome. Only thing I could think of would be lowering bounty payoffs for them. I don't necessarily agree with this, but people only in it for isk would think twice before "wasting ammo." People, like Ronin, who do it more so out of duty won't be effected as much. |
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Posted - 2016.11.10 16:53:04 -
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That's also including Sasha incursions right? Touching them would be a horrible idea, I'm more referring to angel, Blooder, ect. |
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Posted - 2016.11.10 17:04:09 -
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Ahh, I see your point. Thanks for the link as well. |
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Posted - 2016.11.10 17:47:14 -
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Matar Ronin wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:I wouldn't say that they are specifically numb to killing, more so just wearing the blinders of easy money. I would fully agree with you if acknowledging the baseline crew aboard these ships was more commonly brought up. Where we stand now it's not that common. I refer to the sacrifice made by baseline crews. The fact that I do so is often derided by other capsuleers who find greater challenge and sport in combat against capsuleer piloted ships. In both cases baseline crew members expire. Perhaps focusing on the capsuleer pilot who will reanimate in a new clone can help our fellow capsuleers to ignore the baseline crews we kill/murder/execute every time we destroy an opposing vessel. Because we can be such efficient engines of death and destruction the DED and Concord were quite clever to enact a system that gives wide margins for capsuleer versus capsuleer combat. I can burn through a hundred or more baseline piloted ships in a day but not nearly as many capsuleer piloted ships so it limits the destruction a capsuleer can inflict if they spend their time hunting down other capsuleers. I am of the opinion that many of the things often thought of as protection measures are in fact in place to contain capsuleers first and foremost. The crew compliments of each vessel we pilot should be more readily available. I would wager that most capsuleers don't think about how many crew are on board until they are talking with their accounting department in regard to their wages or bonuses. I think more capsuleers would be mindful of the death we inflict if the crew size of vessels was listed in their descriptions. Well, it should be mentioned that with proper procedures in place it is possible to cut down on the number of fatalities. Not having necessary crew aboard for short deployments, having crew waiting to be jettisoned in escape pods (especially for frigate combat where reloading and other things aren't likely in the short engagements generally seen) can help chances slightly. Don't forget that baseline ships also have more in terms of crew in general. I believe Elmund was working on completely automating his breeches, don't know how/if that is working out for him. The numbers of crew in ships was listed on a page at one point, I'm not sure if that page still exists however. I have to agree with you on having base crew sizes listed. |
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Posted - 2016.11.10 18:53:06 -
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Anyone on my ship is usually jettisoning just before I hit hull, deaths do happen quite frequently, though I'd like to think it helps the odds slightly. |
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Posted - 2016.11.10 23:45:46 -
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There's always industrial arts we could focus on. Manufacturing, station construction , ect. |
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Posted - 2016.11.13 17:11:42 -
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Some soldiers are cooks, others do logistics for their side, and others do assassinations and man the guns. They aren't mutually exclusive terms, Kim. Assassinations imply some motive to doing it, be it assassinating a general or what not. Even the "killers" under the federation's banners are soldiers aswell. |
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Posted - 2016.11.13 22:25:37 -
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((pretty sure those are articles from the old wiki, might be on the backstage wiki thing. I could be wrong)) |
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Posted - 2016.11.14 00:50:50 -
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((Ya, come to think of it that was one of the spouted reasons: "keeping it up to date was a major drain on workload" or whatever. Pretty sure Eve: Source mentions those things Luna mentioned as well, I'll look when I get the chance)) |
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Posted - 2016.11.15 03:27:22 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Matar Ronin wrote:Diana Kim wrote:Okay, let me try it then.
1. Caldari Prime was coerced into joining the Federation. Nice to see you publicly admit that everything that follows number one happened because Caldari leadership was weak and foolish enough to be coerced into joining the Federation. The old garbage in garbage out theory comes into play when unelected corp leaders who might have been skilled at making money tried to play the role of interplanetary cultural experts/diplomats. If only the Caldari had had qualified people answerable to the general public making those initial key decisions, how many lives would have been saved? I guess you've never been part of a board meeting that elected a CEO. Also, guess who's ancestors weren't rescued by a foreign power? That's right. My ancestors.
Let us know when the Federation gives you back the rest of your homeworld. I'll take foreign aid over charity from our enemies any day. I'd also love to know how many died from that foreign power to free us. |
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Posted - 2016.11.15 03:44:18 -
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He started it.
We gained aid from a foreign power to fight one of their enemies. Lets be honest here, our own blood was spilled for our freedom. Whether the tools were marked with an eagle, a couple arches, or simply rust and blood is irrelevant to us carving our own destinies out of what once was. Someone should remember who's fight is closer to its end goal. I'm sure our ancestors can be proud either way. |
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Posted - 2016.11.15 04:27:38 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:He started it.
We gained aid from a foreign power to fight one of their enemies. Lets be honest here, our own blood was spilled for our freedom. Whether the tools were marked with an eagle, a couple arches, or simply rust and blood is irrelevant to us carving our own destinies out of what once was. Someone should remember who's fight is closer to its end goal. I'm sure our ancestors can be proud either way. If you even remember who your ancestors are. Nobody took our culture from us. While we're at it, I didn't start it. Human beings, not a tube. Same question back at you. And your absolutely right, we have more bonds than back then though we still hold parts of our own unique tribes. Ask Kim how that's going for her people under the state. I'm dropping the you started it thing since ya that was a miss call calling it on you. |
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Posted - 2016.11.15 05:51:36 -
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Yes I did know that. Though the fact you have to unseal your records and look proves my point... |
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Posted - 2016.11.15 07:48:39 -
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I do have to admit, that was a good answer. |
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Posted - 2016.11.16 18:20:42 -
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Aria Jenneth wrote: Soooo ... Intaki separatism, anyone?
Do they wish to get their independence? Do they have the means to survive on their own with little to no help? Why not? They should be given that option, they should also fight for it if that's their wish. Not saying I believe they can take on the Federation alone so let's hope cooler heads prevail. |
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Posted - 2016.11.16 19:02:00 -
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Oh come now.... Veil isn't as bad as Kim. |
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Posted - 2016.11.16 19:07:04 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:Oh come now.... Veil isn't as bad as Kim. How dare you, primitive tribal, comparing me with this deranged gurista and even claiming I am worse?! Have you lost your mind, subhuman?! See? Veik would have ignored that comment and not wasted her time responding.... |
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Posted - 2016.11.19 14:40:20 -
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Well he isn't wrong about that Ronin. You honestly believe that the depth of our culture is as wide now as it would be if we didn't get invaded? I don't. One of our biggest things we should have pride in, one of the BIGGEST things that proves our worth as a people, is how far we've come despite what we've faced as a people. You give your own too little credit if you think our culture is even a speck of what it could have been. I have to agree with you his "definition" is weak, though I would think he was under the same impression as I would be, I don't need to define what you or I am. You know the definition, you live it as we all do. On that same note (and as what was driven home as a point in the "what is Matari" thread a while back) the definition is blurred as it is.
Just to touch upon your earlier post since I didn't get the chance to reply yesterday, you say you wish to understand matari culture outside of the republic. Do you see the Matari willingly living in Amarr regions as Matari? I know there's a separation of Matari culture and blood, but do remember what "I come for my people" really means. Our culture does have a part which is defending our blood, countless Matari warriors have died for such a thing. Those who choose to stay who could leave if they wished, does that not make them Matari? Going further, does that make them slaver cultists as well? I personally don't blame my kin who don't know what could be, the ones who fight me I see in the same way as a house pet who becomes rabid. I still love them but not enough to die or better yet have my own die because they lost their way. If you truely want to help them then why aren't you looking to know your enemy, your enemy who mind you have roughly half the population of ethnic Matari in their fold? You shouldn't love the Amarr by any stretch, but don't blind yourself to half your kin due to hatred.
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Posted - 2016.11.19 20:04:11 -
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Very true, though to touch upon the second half of what I said. It shouldn't be news to you or anyone here that I have gone out of my way to harrass and pick fights with our enemies, Diana Kim, Nauplius, the majority of the militant Amarr loyalists here. I can atleast find some common ground and can agree when they are in fact right on things. A few examples would be the drifters, blood raiders (to an extent), and arguments on caldari/Galante affairs. Can you say you can do the same? I don't say this to call you out, I say this because like you, I want to know about where the other side's stand. Yes I'm curious about how my kin in far flung parts of the galaxy are but also knowing why people fight allow you to make the conclusions on how to fight more efficiently and also the conscientious decision of whether it's really a fight worth fighting. You'll learn more without doubt than you will with your own world views clouding your judgement. Again, it's not criticism. You find Kim to be your enemy I'd suggest you find out what makes her really tick before you hammer away in ways that haven't worked. |
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Posted - 2016.11.19 21:47:49 -
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Treating you with kid gloves isn't really intended, I would just rather treat my distant kin with respect. With the "tin soldier," what are you basing this honor and such off of? If it is the same definition as I'm sure we agree on, ya she's a coward, liar, ect. Can you say you know how the Caldari think? I think she's more an anomaly since others like Pieter and Makoto have differing opinions, but then again I don't believe they're Achuran. After all, we don't think exactly the same, you being Brutor and me being Sebiestor. Deciphering her vs any other caldari, is the challenge if you really want to know more on them. The first hurdle is understanding they don't think the same way as you or I do. How could they? They had their own paths carved from much different trails than ours. |
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Posted - 2016.11.30 19:58:07 -
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The people don't necessarily represent the republic but the republic represents the people. Think along the lines of all squares are a form of rectangle but not all rectangles are squares. Hope that helps, Pieter. |
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Posted - 2016.12.01 20:37:31 -
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Luna Hanaya wrote:Sinti Vailatti wrote: You do realize that for the Amarr to have Matari slaves, they first had to go to (invade) Matari space? It's not like we decided to go on vacation in Amarr and "OOPS" got enslaved. You realize the slavery issue is a LOT more complex than "Oh it's just something the Amarr do" right?
In the Empire we don't enslave peoples by their race. We enslave criminals and prisoners of war. Would it be Amarr or Minmatar who will start making troubles, the punishment will be the same. Well that's all well and good, care to explain what crime my kin did when your drop ships first landed? This should be good..... |
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Posted - 2016.12.01 23:38:03 -
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Aria Jenneth wrote: I obviously like the Pax Amarria approach better.
Given the choice I'd much rather they tried that approach over the latter. I'm sure without the whole "your culture is irrelevant there for well destroy it" there would be alot less people like myself gunning for your more devout, "die by the sword" types. What could have more than likely become a tool to help your efforts ("see what our God has provided you? You could have all that and more") comes to bite your faith in the.... Well, I think you know what I'm saying here. Their facade was shattered, why should we believe anything at this point, especially when it was once delivered from orbit via a tachyon laser?
It's like Arnulf said, invincibility is only a fact when it isn't answered. Now that it's been answered twice, maybe it's time to change tactics. |
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Posted - 2016.12.01 23:50:53 -
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Of course your not, just force of habit is all. Honestly didn't know it was more recent, relatively speaking. |
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Posted - 2016.12.02 16:55:33 -
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Luna Hanaya wrote:Matar Ronin wrote:To perpetuate their reign of horror the slavery cultists have to keep their own people in the dark about what they really do cling to power. They want everyone to think it's about faith and devotion to a higher calling when the reality is it is all about sadistic rituals and barbaric savagery to hold other humans in bondage to brutally exploit their labor for purely profits or other selfish goals.
Many otherwise highly educated capsuleers seem completely unaware of the difference between the horrors of being a slave and the wispy saving souls chore filled walk in the park the apologists try to soft peddle it as being. We force heathens into slavery to teach them to submit to other humans before they learn to submit to the God. There is no horror in slavery. We all are slaves to the God. Maybe you yourself should become a slave and learn some humility, then you will understand how it works. If you will be a good slave, the God will forgive you your sins. But if you will be a bad slave, you will indeed feel all the horror and suffering... but only because you will invoke them yourself by your own choice of being bad. Slavery is a horror only for selfish ones. You call others selfish, but can you yourself be selfless? Can you submit yourself to slavery? Please excuse me if I will sound rough, but if you won't, you will become just a hypocrite. I believe your religion's rhetoric includes something to the effect of "there is no god other than god." Why must we answer to you: man, not god before that? Supposedly were all "slaves to his glory." Know your place slave. And before I hear the whole "we are here to bring his light to the cluster" thing, you've done a horrible job at it, maybe you aren't specifically the chosen race after all. Which, simply put, leads to the conclusion of who really made who? Did your God make us or did you make him? |
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Posted - 2016.12.02 21:58:26 -
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The lands inside the federation which were once caldari property are not yours to take. While you fight to take things that under your logic you have no claim to fight over, we stand with our federal brothers and sisters at arms from thieves like you.
Doesn't your words have a nice ring to them when returned to you? People in the empire are not worth us fighting for since they are owned by them. Are your lands worth fighting for? So aren't our kin. |
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Posted - 2016.12.03 00:05:03 -
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We're Kaimeiras also freed at the 8th generation mark as well? Maybe they got lax in their training regiments in anticipation? |
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Posted - 2016.12.03 00:54:07 -
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Whether your roam actually transpired or success or whatever, you got people talking and thoughts expressed. Say what you will, Well done on accomplishing, well I don't think it was an original goal but probably a happy accident. |
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Posted - 2016.12.03 01:23:40 -
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I'm actually secretly a Starkmanir princess, don't tell anyone.... |
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Posted - 2017.01.10 21:24:53 -
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Ever stop and think of doing more of a political based attack rather than simply a standard combat fleet which will, ya make a statement, but won't actually be able to be shrugged off as "those stupid tribals are at it again" by the Amarr? People today are rather desensitized to violence alone. Everyday it happens, its nothing new. Not to mention your trying to make a statement using the same means that they practically invented. |
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Posted - 2017.01.10 23:47:39 -
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Matar Ronin wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:Ever stop and think of doing more of a political based attack rather than simply a standard combat fleet which will, ya make a statement, but won't actually be able to be shrugged off as "those stupid tribals are at it again" by the Amarr? People today are rather desensitized to violence alone. Everyday it happens, its nothing new. Not to mention your trying to make a statement using the same means that they practically invented. I will defer to the diplomats for political tactics. The current status quo of the New Eden political scene is fairly well carved in stone. Better to smash that rock instead of painting over it. I would also like to point out I don't remember one 'political' movement started by Capsuleers that has impacted enslaved humans in this Cluster in a significant fashion. When you talk and talk nothing else gets accomplished. Power only yields to a greater power. Before all the trolls chime in, and you know who they are, please don't assume I am plotting an overthrow of an empire, that's straw man hokum. As with the initial post people will recite their canned speeches about what they think is planned and why it can never possibly logistically work. Fortunately the universe is not as limited as some people's imagination or tactical creativity. Big things can start small if they start smart. The bottom line is armed resistance must continue until liberty is gained. When we can agree on that end I am ready to talk and talk about how it can be achieved realistically. Until then I will use the months ahead to put this operation into action. Who said anything about talk? I'm simply referring to having annual things, like Nauplius' yearly million slave murder, don't have the same effect the second time, or the third and so on, and so on. Simply put, make it unexpected, make it visable, make it devastating. They cling to slavery? Enslave their brothers and force them to kill their own when you run your fleets. Why, make it mandatory for your fleetmates to activate their self destruct protocals on ships with escape pods disabled before the fight begins. Vitoxin works indescriminately on all races and baseliners working under the 24IC can and will perform all the tasks your normal crew fufill for their next hit of Vitoc. You want to strike back, why tie your arm behind your back, you want vengence, don't stop when they say when..... |
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Posted - 2017.01.11 00:24:48 -
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What statements are you referring to? |
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Posted - 2017.01.11 07:11:06 -
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Ronin, believe me when i say I'm not against you, but picking fights with Arrendis, who I will say I do have respect for, is pointless. Shes not wrong... Well, maybe when it comes to what your actually trying to do. Fact of the matter is SHE is not your enemy, your enemy have resigned themselves to not speaking here. Ignore such things and speak to those whoare really your audience. Shes tied up to her own groups fight as she, or anybody really fighting for any cause should be. Know your enemy, don't see enemies where they aren't. |
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Posted - 2017.01.11 15:43:26 -
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Matar Ronin wrote:[quote=Deitra Vess] Honestly I sort of like Arrendis because she is sooo much bluster, but she goes out of her way to snipe at me, so I snipe back. She may not fully be an enemy but she is no ally to the cause of abolition.
She seems to have her head stuck so far up the nether regions of the popular crowd she lost any sense of morality, which is a shame because the "good fight" could use more help from people with name recognition. However jarring them out of their follower role into leadership roles is a difficult task, I will attempt to get some of them like her to realize she could make a difference if she did what was the right thing instead of just the popular thing.
The "in" crowd changes, but right and wrong are constant.
Think of it like a triage, theres her poking at semantics and then theres someone litterally trolling your basic ideas and such. Which is worth your time addressing and which is a very simple edit the typo? You could get more thoughts clearly out there (and honestly this would probably be like ten pages instead of twenty seven) if you focused on your serious attacks instead of wasting your nanite paste on minor dents in your hull. Theres no need to worry about pin pricks when there is no blood to lose.
Also, well said Miz, well said. |
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Two things:
One. Yes I do agree with Arrendis on what she said when she said to ask any combat focused pilots. I've had my share of issues regarding that. After your second batch of new recruits, expect atleast one or two with ill intentions. That is, if you have something to be gained by it. In that senario I would be doubling up security checks on the initial wave since its easily something that people would jump on exploiting.
Two. Sorry its off topic, but aren't drifter battleships immune to ewar effects? I really could be wrong on that... |
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Posted - 2017.01.11 23:29:40 -
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Arrendis wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:Two. Sorry its off topic, but aren't drifter battleships immune to ewar effects? I really could be wrong on that... Nope. Webs, points, tracking disruption, painters, they all work. Ahh, thanks and sorry for the interuption |
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Posted - 2017.01.12 02:47:56 -
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Last "word" |
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Posted - 2017.03.26 17:34:06 -
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Price limit? Or just any alpha capable ship? I might have sonething for ya.... |
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Posted - 2017.06.22 22:37:17 -
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My dragoons better, I sold it and bought an algos. Also, if its the fit im thinking of id love to see a dragoon take on five or six of thrm. |
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Posted - 2017.06.23 12:53:01 -
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Matar Ronin wrote: The drones give additional firepower but against a swarm of twenty, thirty, forty, or fifty ships how long would they last?
The better question honestly would be how long would they last on field upon seeing that on dscan before they simply warped off. If I was solo in a medium site (which I generally don't do for this very reason) and i saw more than one cruiser on dscan at short (5au) more than likely I'd be aligned out already, If local exploded by 20 people before seeing that I would probably be in warp at that time. Bravery isnt a synonym for stupidity. Never mind this kiting thing which is also true but given where I would imagine him conducting this operation isn't as common as simply not bothering. |
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Null Ronin wrote:Aria Jenneth wrote:Kite, noun, piloting technique employing speed and range to maximize one's own effectiveness while minimizing or eliminating incoming fire by engaging from extreme range and forcing hostiles to pursue, picking them off as they do so. Named for the quality of running before the "wind" of the oncoming enemy while maintaining range, like a kite on a string. Especially useful when heavily outnumbered. Typical weaknesses are relatively low damage, esp. at short range, and weak defense when actually forced to absorb fire.
Counterable, definitely. It's something you have to be prepared for, though, as a rule, and means limiting your own effectiveness against other tactics.
It's a favorite for dealing with swarms, which rarely have strong coordination in their tactics and fitting.
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Also, again, you've got Ms. Daphiti, Mr. Egivand, Ms. Vess, Miz, and me all agreeing.
This basically doesn't happen. Silly me I did not know Dragoons were impervious to tackle and webs which would otherwise counter their ability to stay at distance unreachable by alpha pilots. Keep in mind we are talking about one pilot who said she looked forward to encountering "swarms " of alpha piloted ships, not running away from them. As far as the oh so wise that are agreeing with you they are not addressing the actual specifics of the conversation but have invented alternative scenarios in their own minds. That way they can always be right even when they are dead damn wrong! We are all familiar with the "Arrendis method" on the forums., these are just less eloquent more rudimentary versions thereof. Fiction is fun but a swarm of alpha cruisers with tackle and web doing at minimum 450 effective hit points of damage per volley or even half that with significant enough numbers, aka a swarm, will destroy the Dragoon and all it's flights of drones in short order. No matter how you slice it pod express ride home for the Dragoon pilot. Math might not be popular but it's always correct. You can feel free to drop on me with a swarm of cruisers, destroyers and frigates anytime, I'm NOT going to take that fight. Not to mention more than likely a good chunk of them wouldnt be able to enter the plex since i rarely do anything bigger than a novice (frigates for the win) and i watch dscan and local.
Once again, bravery and stupidity are not synonyms. You can be brave without being completely incompetent enough to feed a swarm of ships in a fight not worth your time.
Math infact is always correct. If jane has 100 assorted ships on field and john has 0 on field due to warping away before they landed, how many ships did john lose? |
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
2023
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Posted - 2017.06.25 07:25:42 -
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Null Ronin wrote: As a student I am just now looking to apply these lessons in the field, so perhaps be seeing some of you, real soon.
Speaking as someone who leads fleets that would more than likely be on the same side as you, I hope thats the case. Again don't expect any fleet I command to even be bothered trying to compete with you, nor should you take my words as talking down to you. People don't stick around for my fleets of roughly 5-8 frigates nevermind "swarms of alphas in cruisers" in the areas I'm assuming you'd be operating in. Good luck getting a fight, I doubt whether garranteed win or lose you'll get. |
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
2023
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Posted - 2017.06.25 14:24:14 -
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Aria Jenneth wrote:So ... Messrs. Ronin and Ronin? A little bit of advice I took, back when I was flying with PY-RE (I don't think I'd ever actually done this before, and wow did it have an effect):
Build yourself a personal stock of fitted combat frigates. I don't mean like five or ten, I mean like thirty or even sixty. Take them out into dangerous places. Be aggressive (not totally suicidal, though; there's no point if you just run them all into a gatecamp.
Fight and fight until you lose them all.
By the time you're done, you'll know what you're doing. The alternative leads to risk aversion-- crippling fear of loss.
It's how I learned. If I ever go back into the warzone, or anywhere else like it, I think maybe I should even do it again. My claws aren't so sharp anymore, you know? Not even Drifters really prepare you to take on a peer.
This goes for basically everyone you fly with, so, you'll want to keep them supplied with expendable frigates at very low or zero charge, and have some pre-built doctrine fleets prepped as well for when you need them. This was PY-RE's approach, and I think most dedicated combat corporations do something similar.
I won't wish you luck, but, maybe we'll see each other there sometime, and test each other's edge.
Something to look forward to.
That is the absolute best advice possible. We on average have close to 100 ships on reserve for corp at any given moment, and they're handed out with the condition of "lose them in combat in our AO before you take another of the same type." I don't know a group in the area that doesn't have some similar program in place. Its pretty much a staple for combat pilots.
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